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no I think it's probably somewhat more than that

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tulpa demographic surveys tend to pull in a few hundred

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but that's a number of people who are active in the community right now, and who responded to a survey

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so multiplying that by several times doesn't seem unreasonable

I see.

A bit late to the party, but my system experiences the same thing Bari encounters - When one of us speaks, we get different head feelings and when my host speaks, it always comes from the back of the throat. He sometimes holds his breath when he talks to us, or expels it out of his nose. It's a bit odd. It's neat to see that we're not the only ones who experience this. Very neat stuff.

tulpa.info has 13226 members, I find it unlikely that less than 1 in 13 of them have tulpas

A bunch of them are also spam bots

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plus there's lots of people with tulpas in the world who aren't registered on that site

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oh right, those

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why do people send spambots to tulpa.info so much?

The member count is definitely inflated by banned idiots, spammers, people who left long ago, people who signed up and said hi and never posted again, etc.

rtulpas has 17k subs too

Yeah we get tons of spambots

which won't be spambots but will still have a lot of non-hosts

they seem to like to sell shoes for some reason

I think the current amount online on the Reddit is a more accurate metric

There are also accounts for tulpas, which can now be linked to the host's account.

mmmmeh

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the online count will be inflated in a similar way

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and also deflated heavily generally speaking

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the only thing it has going for it is that it's a small fraction of the sub count, so maybe you can say it's a nice conservative estimate

The Reddit is less likely to have one system on multiple accounts, doesn't have spam (that I'm aware) and other than bots indexing it likely doesn't have someone who doesn't intend to be there browsing it

Very neat stuff. I'm not alone. ^^

I agree with that but that is true of the sub count too

No spambots on discord that I've ever seen

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Discord seems pretty high quality for a program that's the exact same on mobile as it is pc

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Just a good protocol imo

We generally don't get spammers at least of the "buy mah garbage" type on the IRC either

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On the forum spambots are hoping to leave links on obscure forums to pump up their siterank on google

It's harder to advertise on a live chat without getting banned. It normally is someone DMing everyone

And sadly Discord is not quite the same on mobile and PC. Doesn't seem to be a way to use slash commands in it on mobile, like /tts or /tableflip. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

is true. pings are also slightly broken on mobile

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if you have a name clash between role and user

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desktop will treat it properly and ping whatever you select from the drop-down it gives you

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mobile will always give you the role

Name clashes are annoying too, especially in the compact layout.

but pastes the shortcode into the text

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compact layout bad

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having avatars is great for me to remember who people are

I like compact layout though, I don't have an extra 1080p screen to give Discord

not in the case of name clashes

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but just generally, names often aren't enough

Even in compact it's a bulkier layout than my hexchat

how often do a name and a role clash?

hmm, on another tulpa server I'm in it's pretty frequent, because people get tulpa name roles

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and then also change their name to their tulpa when they're talking

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so lol

If Red comes here, he will clash with the Red role here

Not to be rude, but perhaps this should be moved to lounge.

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Yikes, yeah it should

Why are there 3 channels for basically the same thing??

they have their subtle differences

The differences are subtle but important

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Anyways-

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You say that your host can impose you but still not see you?

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Can you talk a little more about that?

She knows that she has trouble seeing me, but she wants to get used to my presence outside. I like to sit on her shoulders or walk around, etc. but even though she knows I'm doing things she can't hallucinate me.

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-imposition-jd-s-guide-to-visual-imposition-image-heavy

JD's Guide to Visual Imposition (image heavy)

JD's Guide to Imposition dedicated to cheesebread (if you have not yet, read my visualization guide first) For many people, complete visual imposition of their tulpa is the end-goal of development. An

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Take a look at this

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I find its a really good resource for this kind of issue

Be prepared to spend a lot of time learning to impose - the brain doesn't typically have deliberate controlled hallucinations.

it's fairly common for a host to not be able to hallucinate their tulpa for a while, does she at least see you with her "mind's eye" (i.e. visualize you as if you were imaginary)

You asked If it's a practice problem or if there's other methods. I'd say both. You will have to practice more, but there's always other methods you can see if they work better for you. (edited)

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And visualization/imposition is hard work

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Some days it can feel like two steps forward one step back. The exact reason for this apparent visualization fatigue isn't known but it's supposedly normal.

Oh yeah... cat looked at this guide once and none of the pictures showed up! Although most of the pictures seem to work now

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And yeah, she can visualize my actions with her "minds eye", however she feels like she's getting cliff notes and not a whole lot of detail.

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-visualization-jd-s-guide-to-visualization

JD's Guide to Visualization

JD’s Guide to Visualization Many people come into tulpamancy with different levels of visualization. It’s common for more artistic and imaginative people, as well as those with the tendency to daydrea

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I think I meant to post this one earlier

Oh yeah... one of the problems Cat has is she has the most trouble visualizing me when I stand still. I wonder if movement is easier for her to process because she's using more shortcuts? However, she gets frustrated when she looks at me and then everything instantly goes black. When she read this visualization guide, she was worried she had little to no visualization skills when I doubt that's the case. (edited)

That's actually interesting

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I know that visual processing is a huge system of the mind, and that motion has its own separate part

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So maybe she trained visualization skills disconnected from what is used to process when you're not moving

perhaps the doubt is affecting things, maybe she'd have an easier time seeing you if she expected to see you instead

Everything instantly going black reminds me of when I am visualizing something and lose focus

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I'm not a very good visualizer these days though

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Have her practice visualizing you when you're standing or sitting still

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And have her try to re-impose you every time focus breaks

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Over and over until it sticks

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It will be difficult so remind her not to get upset that focus breaks happen

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They just are. Like passing thoughts while meditating

Sorry, I have some thoughts but I don't think they are relevant. I kept stumbling on myself. I guess considering that visualizing me while standing still and moving could be fundamentally different... That's interesting. (edited)

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Why would one be chosen over another?

Some of it carries over. I'd assume most. Just how much I don't know

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Perhaps that's a place someone should so some research on

I suppose everything I'm thinking now is just speculation, but I wonder if doing "role plays" would prefer a more movement-dependent visualization skill...

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When she forced with me in the past, it wasn't intentional. I wonder if she forced me differently, she would develop different skills.

Almost certainly

I'm not sure if it goes here, but as it's tulpa related, I want to ask. Does anyone here do something known as "maladaptive daydreaming"?

Care to explain what it is? My system does things that we're unsure if there are names for.

wouldn't maladaptive imply it's a bad thing?

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/maladaptive-daydreaming

Maladaptive Daydreaming: Scale, Symptoms, and Treatments

Maladaptive daydreaming is when someone has consuming daydreams that interfere with their daily life. These daydreams are triggered by real-life events.

It's considered to be a condition, not an activity.

What Vos said. We can daydream pretty heavily to the point where everything goes in one ear and out the other, but not to that extent.

This disorder, which I have, can be used as a great tool for forcing

It seems to be a double edged sword. How's your experience with it and forcing so far?

I forced for 2+ hours straight without issue utilizing it

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Laugh if you want, but...